Hi everyone, as you may know (or not), few days ago, 3 persons got ban simultaneously from MKBoards, which means they are also unable to play any competition related to it, and in this case, MKU and MKU Cup. Before going into more details, I'll do a quick presentation of who I am, who WE are and what's our relation with Mario Kart in general (those who know us well already don't need to read this if they don't want to, and those who don't care can skip it aswell, that's up to you) and I'll then talk to you about what's been happening recently and how it is affecting us. If you're not interested in any of this, you can leave this thread now, since it's basically gonna be a story tell combined with a complain. I will try to keep it as synthetic as possible so it's not becoming a pain for the readers Our story Before being an MK8Dx team, we were a group of friends that meet up on MK8u. We were both from different teams (hc, DR, sG and so on) but we played together in a subclan called MKF alongside people that I still consider as really good friends (Ace, Joe, Tomsu, Sgt, Marc, Damian in particular). Our main goal back then was to have fun all together, playing some wars, some games on Steam, just call and chill pretty much. But we were a bit immature sometimes (and we still are to an extent) and we used to have fun about pretty much everything (Shoutout to Teeples for his infamous quote that we still sometimes shout when we play) Spoiler And I'm pretty sure some people disliked us for this reason (Si tu lis ça Beni, désolé mon bro, je sais que tu nous en veux pas maintenant mais personnellement je regrette). After MK8u got replace by MK8Dx, we decided to create a team called Team JBZZ where almost everyone would play for the upcoming competitions on this game. Things started alright, we didn't change much, but at some point, the team exploded because of an internal quarrel. At that moment, 2 teams formed, DR and hc. After 1 season of MKU, we realized that was a mistake to do so, and we ended up reuniting under the same name with some others people (Salut les ex DR). After creating a drama on the 1st week of MKU with DR, we thought that it might be a better idea to settle down a bit, because more and more players would think of you as some sort of "bad guys" that were here just to have fun and belittle teams we played against. That's how I acted at least, I may have sometimes said bad words towards someone, ignored others and so on, but I didn't hate anyone (until now) and didn't want to, since we are a pretty small community, that would just be dumb in my opinion. You can't like everyone, but not because you don't like him, you don't have to turn him down. And that leads to the main thing I wanted to talk about. What's happening? There is a good chance that players from MKWii or any other Mario Kart game will end up on this thread, and if you're still reading this, it's not related to MK8Dx technically, but in his "community", so you should be able to read this without any problem. As I stated at the beginning of my post, 3 players from our team got banned from mkboards (Athaway, Pyrax and Pierre, for those who know them but didn't know they were banned). First thing I wanted to point out is that it happened without even a warning. We realized that when Joe and Shii talked to us asking "Wait, are you guys really banned from MKBoards?" and we had to double-check if it was true. That was a pretty big surprise and I'm pretty sure everyone would be in our situation. The only thing that could've prepared us is when "someone" DM'd us to say "There's a pretty big surprise coming for you, it's start with a >B and end with a >N" (I'll hide their names so they aren't "hated". They will recognize themselves in there, and everyone will wonder who it might be, even tho I'm pretty sure most already know). The first thing we did back then is ask the MKU staff is they knew anything about it (we asked Shii to begin with since he's the one that came to tell us, but he looked pretty surprised himself, so that meant he didn't know much more than us) and it was confirmed not that long after, so we know it's not related to them at all (so please don't hate on them, especially Asuna that took a lot already this season). By the way : Athaway is banned for 2 weeks. Pierre is banned for 2 weeks. Pyrax's ban is undefined. Which leads to another issue : our team is separated in 2, JBZZ and DJULO, and those 2 teams have pretty small rosters. Yet, both teams managed to play everything single match except the xi one (where they agreed on rescheduling even after I acted really childish, so I wanted to apologize for my attitude and thank you for that, it means a lot). But with the 3 bans happening, we were stuck in a really tricky situation : - Either we weren't enough to play in D1 anymore and had to drop - Or we could've taken some members from DJULO to play, but they wouldn't be able to play anymore. Needless to say, I didn't want to sacrifice them, and I accepted our fate and dropped from D1. Only thing that might be a problem is that a team dropping from MKU is not able to partake in the next season, so unless MKU staff is kind to us, we won't be able to play aswell, even after the bans are over for 2 of us. After investigating a bit, they found the reason why they got ban in the first place, and I have to admit that I was shock. After trying to be better persons, they got ban for, as I would call it, "negative attitude", "trashtalk" and for Pyrax's case "death threat" (... really?). Obviously, the 1st thing that came to our mind is contacting MKBoards staff to undersand more about it, and I did aswell, because I legitimately don't even know what is held against us. And after talking with 2 of them, we were hit by some bitter words : The reason behind it is "normal" I would say, because one could easily ask to see them to know who did it, and do whatever they wanted with that information, that's classic. But in our case, we already knew who it was (remember when they threatened us that they would ban us, not really hard to know to be fair), and thanks to a special someone, we also knew that those 2 asked for quotes from all around the community to get us banned (If you're reading this, shame on you, really). But at the same time, I thought : "How can we defend ourselves if we can't even see what's being held against us? That's nonsense!" (as you may have seen, I'm using WE because 4 persons were supposed to be ban from MKBoards, and I'm pretty confident I'm the one that went through, so I still feel close to the matter, and besides, I'm the leader of JBZZ, so obviously I'll help my teammates, and more importantly, my friends). So I told them about it, and still, we couldn't. We can't even know if those screenshots and chat logs are real of just fake ones since it's really easy to fake it : It took me 30 seconds to do a screen like it, and needless to say, I can put anyones name in here, that's not hard. For those who don't really realize what it means, it's basically like you're going to the tribunal, you're considered as the "culprit" and the judge come to you and says "You're being judged today for xxx reason, we won't show you any proof, but you're guilty and you can't do anything about it.". Of course, we didn't stay with our hands crossed, waiting for the inevitable to happen and just cry on each others shoulders, and we tried to defend ourselves from it. We gave screenshots, chat logs, lots of things could lessen a lot of what could've been the issues. Needless to say, it didn't work, and the only messages we got with all of that is "We will send it in the staff chat and discuss about it" (That helps). We even asked 1 of the person they asked for quotes and testimonials against us if he liked us or not, and he reacted and said that he had nothing against us, it was things from the past and he wasn't holding it against us (and I really, really thank this person for that, he forgave us for things we did a long time ago and we still regret nowadays). After giving lots of evidences, we even came with ideas like making a group chat with several MKBoards staff members and us discussing about the matter and all, and I got totally ignored. When we pretty much started to realize that if nothing else happened, we would still be considered guilty whatsoever, we started to give some proof against those who were against us (they were 2, for the most part, but several contributed aswell). We already knew it would be difficult as one is part of the MKBoards staff, so he would be able to protect himself way more than we could. And actually, we prepared for it, because in the evidences we sent, there were some tweets, and before sending them, we took screenshots of them, because they can disappear pretty fast. And that was a smart move from our side, because only a few minutes after we sent them, the tweet magically disappeared, and it was related to someone our beloved staff member knew : (For the person that twitted this and deleted, I'm not holding anything against you, I actually even still like you, but I had to show this for what's coming). That means the staff member actually leaked what we sent to send, even tho, I got this from another MKBoards staff : So unless they agreed and let him do so, that means the staff was clearly against us, if not, then someone didn't respect the only rule I got to know about being an MKBoards staff. Tragic, isn't it? We managed to know why that staff had a grudge against us, and I think it's pretty sad aswell : Personnal vengeance, yep. We had lots of screenshots to show that we weren't the only bad guys in this, chat logs, screenshots that I won't send here (but if anyone that reads this wants to know about them, you can ask me on Discord, I'll gladly give them to you). We did what we would to lessen the bans, and even tried to remove them, because not only that makes us look bad from the outside, but that prevents us from playing in competitive, and it also makes D1 a 5 team div even tho we really wanted to go on, but rules are rules. What I really hope here is that hopefully, not everyone will see us as bad guys, as those who got banned from MKBoards for being toxic, because we like you all, no matter what you do. You might not like us, and that's fair, we did bad stuff back then that some of us regret, but we aren't gonna live in the past and feel bad about it, we will live on and try to show ourselves on a brighter side. We want to be the ones that you can DM on discord to ask whatever, just chill with, and maybe even war, who knows. I'm only disappointed in 2 persons that will recognize each others that I will consider as "Hypocrites" like you so called us. That's pretty much it for me, I'm pretty sure that most people will ignore this thread or just read a little bit before leaving, but for those that do so, thanks a lot, I appreciate it. What I would really like asweel is, for those that want to discuss about it, reply here, asking about more details, or what I have to do with all of this, or anything, feel free, I'll make sure to write back as soon as possible and hopefully lighten up what you needed to know. For those that also want to talk about it, but in a more private way, you can DM me on discord at @Lez'#8595. If you want to discuss in here, please keep it clean and don't start a brawl, because your opinion on the matter is pretty interesting to me, knowing if what I said is nonsense or normal. I really hope this doesn't get locked and I don't get banned for this, but I had to say what I had stuck in my throat for the past 2 days (and no, that's not a d***). I'll be out, thanks for reading, and peace.